Thread: security issues?
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12-09-2009, 13:39 #1
security issues?
hier ne copy-paste van een ander forum, ik ken er persoonlijk te weinig van, maar mss andere mensen hier dat er meer van kennen er dit kunnen bevestigen of tegenspreken?
Apparently there are some issues regarding gameguard, which is a anti-hacking software that these assholes from aion install on your computer without even telling you about it. I have kaspersky internet security 2010 and both softwares don t get along. So i did some research on forums and google a bit gameguard and came up kinda worried. The gms on the forums actually tell people to uninstall their antivirus so that gameguard can run...This software will not go away even if you uninstall aion... and... well just let me copy and paste:
1. Gameguard is a Rootkit.
Gameguard (lovingly referred to as "Gayguard" by many) essentially operates as a "rootkit" on your computer. If you don't know what a rootkit is, then I suggest you give it a good hard Google...then after you recover...skip back to this post to read more. By installing a rootkit on your computer, you are essentially allowing the process to covertly maintain complete control over your computer.
2. It runs in the background after you close Aion.
Gameguard leaves behind processes that continue to run within your system, even after you stop playing Aion. Whether these processes are sending data to the creators in Korea, or watching your every move on the internet, we will never know. A rootkit is essentially free to do whatever it wants to.
3. You are often asked to disable all security software for it to run.
In order to run Gameguard without errors, you will often be told by people to disable your internet security, firewall, antivirus, or all of the above. Advice such as this can be found on the NCSoft Technical Support website, including telling people to unsintall their security software completely!
It's rather simple really: when a program needs you to disable your security or uninstall it in order to run properly, it doesn't take a genius to start asking why this is. Most antivirus programs report that Gameguard is a dangerous program and they do this for a reason. Having spent some time recently looking at exactly what this program does, I am not comfortable running it on my computer ever again.
4. Gameguard disables parts of your computer.
Gameguard disables certain functionality within your computer and hardware. It has been known to disable programs that monitor your systems internal operating temperature, so you will be unable to see whether your system is overheating. There have also been reports of Gameguard disabling the speedfan used to cool your CPU, leading to complete system meltdown. Furthermore, Gameguard disables certain keyboard and mouse functions (in particular the Logitech keyboard and Razer mouse), which leaves you rather stuck when you are used to certain mouse buttons or keyboard keys working (especially if you paid extra to enjoy them!).
5. Gameguard doesn't do anything to stop hacking.
From extensive testing during the beta's it has been confirmed that even with Gameguard running, you can use Macro Express while playing Aion. Macro Express is the number one macro/botting tool used by people and Gameguard doesn't do a single thing to try and stop it. Also, after doing some research on other games that use Gameguard, I have found a number of exploits written that actually require Gameguard to be present and running in order to run the exploit. This is no anti-hacking tool, if anything it is enabling hacking to be done more easily.
Just a heads up for peeps that didn t yet tried the game. I m trying to circunvent my antivirus problem to actually give it a go. Fortunately i can reset my system quite easily and get rid of that nuicance program in case i don t like the game
There is a list in wikipedia about which programs you are not allowed to have to actually run the game.
P.S. btw, wow uses ´Warden´ which works slightly different than gameguard. Basically it does not hijack your computerboglyft ftwno votes
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12-09-2009, 16:21 #2Approved 9-lifer
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dat is geschreven door een "paranoia" gast ze, ik heb geen last van GG en alles staat aan, firewall, virusscan progie (Norton), al mijn stats progies staan ook aan en werken, ik kan perfect zien hoeveel graden mijn GPU of CPU of gelijk wat word in men PC.
moet wel zeggen veel anti-hacking doet GG niet, moet lineage2 eens kijken heb bots altijd weten werken met GG aan ^^ maar dit terzijde.
Denk echt niet dat GG blijft werken na dat het spel uit gezet word! (ben dan ook niet paranoia genoeg om er achter te zoeken).
Dat GG een grote verbruiker van CPU kracht is kan ik geloven, want als je een spel die GG heeft start zonder GG aan (mits wat cracking, niet aanbevolen om te doen trouwens) start het spel in een mum van tijd op.
VB: spel met GG aan heeft +- 1 - 1.5 mins nodig om op te starten en zelfde spel zonder GG start in minder dan 20sec op.
Kort GG is slecht? (juist) maar zeggen dat het spyware of virus-like is (overdreven).“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” ? Albert Einstein
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ? Albert Einstein
“I'm sure the universe is full of intelligent life. It's just been too intelligent to come here.” ? Arthur C. Clarkeno votes
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12-09-2009, 16:41 #3Member
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mijn kaspersky gaat hier perfect
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Hardware Geek !no votes
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12-09-2009, 17:33 #4
Voor de gene die problemen hebben met game guard Guide: How to disable Gameguard in Aion - Serenity kijk vanonder How to disable it
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Velen hebben gewoon problemen omdat ze illegale software of een illegaal OS hebben staan .. Alles staat hier aan & nooit problemen. Legion member met gekraakte OS heeft constant problemen, alsook anderen die bvb dan een gekraakte ESET versie hebben staan
Daar zitten de meeste problemen, maar er zijn inderdaad ook gekende problemen met legale progamma's, maar daar werkten ze toch al aan om dit allemaal te fixen voor de release?no votes
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12-09-2009, 19:41 #6Approved 9-lifer
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ja zo denk ik er ook over ! ik heb ook alles aan staan nooit problemen had met Aion en of GG.
had vroeger ook illegale OS, maar ben daar van af gestapt ik had ook altijd wat voor en was het moe om telkens te gaan formateren om van de problemen een tijdje af te geraken.
heb nu 64bit Vista Ultimate, nog nooit probs mee had.“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” ? Albert Einstein
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ? Albert Einstein
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Ik hield m'n hart vast, maar ook hier gaat alles vlekkeloos. Ik heb NOD32 als anitvirus
There's something to be said about brute force ... it's usually followed by brute stupidity
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12-10-2009, 19:19 #8
Hier ook geen enkel probleem met AVG plus firewall.
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12-10-2009, 19:46 #9
1) waarom een maand oud topic bovenhalen?
2) GameGuard is disabled sinds releaseno votes

