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    Tutoring

    Tutoring is one of the new and maybe best features in FM 07. It allows you to educate your youngsters in a completely new and different way, ensuring that you have a youth squad that will continue playing your preferred style of football as well as fitting into the mentality of your squad perfectly.

    Since the players have a set potential ability, which will be a random value for youth players in most cases, you cannot turn a player with the talent to play in Conference North into a possible candidate for a national team, but you can certainly help and accelerate their development and indeed turn them into better players.

    Why does tutorship improve players when the potential ability is set?

    Potential ability is not the only thing which determines a player’s quality. There are other stats that are hidden and looked up by many players using ‘cheat’ tools that determine his quality; like consistency or how well they respond to important matches, as well as his personality. It is obvious that you want to have as many determined players in your squad as possible instead of a bunch of un-ambitious, lethargic followers.

    In previous versions of the game, determination was a key value to see if youngsters will reach their full potential sooner or later. I am not sure if this still is valid for FM 07, but certainly it will help a player to perform better in the long run.

    This will get more and more important if you start playing long-term games and your scouts will discover several high potential 'regens' or 'newgens' (those youth players created by the game) every year who have severe flaws in their personality. Of course you would do everything to sign these youngsters, but you certainly would not want to ruin your squad personality within a few years.

    As long as these players are sensitive to tutorship, there is absolutely no problem in signing them. With several tutors, or even with the same mentor for several periods, you can turn these youngsters from undetermined to fairly determined or from unambitious to professional. This way I managed to tutor a defender (who had wonderkid status later) from a balanced or fairly professional player to a commanding centre back with high influence, determination and work rate, and he started playing as a 2nd or 3rd captain for the team aged 19.

    Helping the youngsters to mature faster

    There are certain hints that tutorship can lead to very fast development of youngsters. On several occasions I noticed that potential wonderkids acquired this tag quickly after being tutored, so they must have made a little jump forward with their current ability.

    Friendships

    Another highly beneficial factor: good relationships within your team. If you find good tutors for your youngsters, they will see both the manager and the tutor as favoured personnel after finishing a successful tutorship. Unfortunately these friendships are only established if the player acquired PPMs but not if his mentality has improved (which does not make mentality tutoring worth less btw.).

    Risks

    I a few cases, tutorship can end in a clash between tutor and follower, even leading to mutual antipathy. If this happens with multiple squad members, some players may also get disgruntled at the lack of squad harmony. If this problem does not get solved on it’s own, you can loan certain players or offer new contracts which should solve the problem.

    Player Preferred Moves (PPM)

    Acquiring player preferred moves (PPMs) can add to the player's quality as well. Some examples: if you have a good free kick taker in your youth squad and a senior player with PPMs like ‘hits free kicks with power’ or ‘tries long range free kicks’, it would be highly beneficial for your youngsters to learn these moves.

    Other good examples are ‘dictates tempo’, ‘tries killer balls often’ or ‘curls balls’ for young playmakers. If you have an explosive young striker who might get (and miss…) many one-on-one chances, PPMs like ‘likes to round keeper’, ‘comes deep to receive the ball’, ‘tries to lob the keeper’, 'places shots' would be incredibly useful and add to your player’s quality.

    Which method of tutorship should I choose?

    When you select the player interaction menu of your youngsters, you will see three options:

    1 Should see player x would as the ideal role model
    2 Should learn from player x the mental approach
    3 Should learn from player x

    1 Ideal role: This should be reserved for players that have both PPMs and character traits that you want to pass on. The determination, work rate and influence of the tutor should always be higher then the follower’s.

    2 Mental approach: A good way if you want to influence the character of the youngster. Even tutors without any PPMs, but high determination and professional character are very well suited. If you have highly-talented youngsters with low determination or ambition, you can assign them to several tutors in a row to completely change their personality.

    3 Learn from: This should be used if the follower already has a very good character or even better one then his tutor and you just want him to learn his PPMs.

    Multiple tutoring: after circa six months you can assign a new tutor. Sometimes it can be useful to assign several tutors consecutively for increasing the personality or collecting several PPMs of various players, which can be very helpful especially for smaller clubs with less sophisticated tutors.

    Why can't I assign a tutor?

    Players ineligible for tutoring: after joining a new club, youngsters often need a few days to be eligible for tutoring.

    Unfortunately some youngsters cannot be assigned to a tutor at all, I reckon simply because their ability is already very close to the first team average, since most of them are already first team players according to my experience. Note: this does not depend on their contract status, it is merely based on the current ability, which already may be very high or higher then your squad average, if you managed to sign an outstanding 'wonderkid'.

    A few youngsters are very hostile against any kind of tutoring while others will not pick up any moves at all. This does not have to mean they will develop into bad players, but it is already a little hint about their adaptability. Generally, tutors with PPMs are more likely to be accepted and welcomed, but this does not matter at all if you want the youngsters to increase their mental approach by learning from a very determined player.

    Please notes that the possible tutors sometimes have to be in the first team to appear on the tutor list.

    Sometimes it takes a little effort to find out their needs: e.g. Schmoller rejected every mental tutor at Dortmund, but finally he loved being tutored by Traoré to learn his free kick skills. With a free kick rating of 20, I am very curious to see the results. By the way, Traoré learned from Dedé originally, so this is a good example of how to keep knowledge and quality in your team.

    Combined with good scouting and small investments in young players, I am sure tutoring can bring a lot of fun in long-term games when you see your youth players blossom. In first season it also will help increasing your squad quality in a very short time.
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    Nog nooit intensief gebruik van gemaakt eigenlijk, heb er ook nooit echt op gelet als ik het wel deed.

    Toch eens doen

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    Ook nooit echt gebruikt, en als ik het eens gebruikte werd een van 2 wel ongelukkig ermee. eens goed lezen hierboven zal wel helpen zeker...
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    Yep, zelfde hier...
    Heb eigenlijk nog ma ene keer speler laten leren van een ander. En das ook nie goed afgelopen.
    Kben er dan maar mee gestopt
    Na eerste post gelezen te hebben misschien toch nog eens proberen in mijn nieuwe carriere

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    Ik ben blij dat ik dit artikel nog gevonden heb, zou graag eens zo'n PPM laten overzetten.
    Dictates tempo bijvoorbeeld.
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    Ik heb feitelijk maar een drietal goeie tutors, Mudingayi is zeker een interessante en Hangeland ook. (leader)
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    Al paar keer gedaan bij jonge spelers die lijken op oudere speler met gelijkende persoonlijkheid en draait meestal goed uit...
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    Ik heb het al een paar keer gedaan maar heeft nog nooit echt enorme resultaten gehad. Meestal leren ze twee/drie moves bij of een heel klein beetje van de mental ability's maar verder nog nooit veel resultaat gehad.
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    Ik had nu een jonge creatieve middenvelder onder Mudingayi gezet en hij heeft dictate tempo overgenomen.
    Dat lukt dus zeker.
    Nu zou ik graag van men temperamentvolle Brazilianen, gedreven werkers maken
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    Quote Originally Posted by reteiP View Post
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    Ik heb feitelijk maar een drietal goeie tutors, Mudingayi is zeker een interessante en Hangeland ook. (leader)
    Hoe kan je een goeie tutor herkennen? Mental stats oa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boutros View Post
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    Hoe kan je een goeie tutor herkennen? Mental stats oa?
    a) Goed karakter, dat is dan determined, leader, light-hearted, ...
    b) Goede determination, influence, teamwork tov diegene die je wil opleiden.
    c) Eventueel goede favoriete moves.
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    Ik ben er al naar opzoek geweest (sorry als het in voorgaande tekst dtaat, dat ik slechts diagonaal gelezen heb), maar HOE link je een jonge speler aan een leraar?
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    via player interaction via de jonge speler.
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    thanks, i'll try it
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