Thread: ET : Activision Angst
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26-07-2006, 21:55 #1Approved 9liver
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ET : Activision Angst
c/p vanop xfireThe popular Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory community ran fan site Enemy-Territory.com has today received a notice demanding they hand over the www.enemy-territory.com domain name.
This is a copy of the letter sent to site admin Nate
Dear Mr. Martin:
I am the Online Manager for Activision Publishing, Inc. Our company publishes and distributes the successful WOLFENSTEIN: ENEMY TERRITORY™ game and the new ENEMY TERRITORY: QUAKE WARS™ game, both of which were developed by id Software. Note that ENEMY TERRITORY® is a registered trademark and WOLFENSTEIN: ENEMY TERRITORY™ and ENEMY TERRITORY: QUAKE WARS™ are trademarks of id Software, licensed to Activision.
It is our understanding that you have registered the domain name enemy-territory.com and are using it in connection with a website devoted to our games. Our company and id appreciate greatly your interest in the games and your efforts in creating and maintaining the site. It is loyal fans such as you who make our efforts in this field worthwhile.
I am writing to explore the possibility of purchasing the enemy-territory.com domain name on behalf of Activision. In exchange for the transfer of the domain name, our company would be willing to pay $250 to you and provide a copy of any one of the published Activision games. Of course, you would be free to continue to operate your site, but would have to use another URL.
In view of the fact that your domain name includes id Software trademarks and thus could be transferred without charge, I believe that this is a very fair offer. If you agree, please contact me so that we can work out the details of the transfer. I appreciate your consideration, and look forward to receiving your reply.
Sincerely yours,
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John Horniblow
Online Manager
Activision Publishing, Inc.
Enemy-territory.com is the nets largest ET resource site, hosting 2,535,390 downloads of Windows and Linux ET files since its creation in November 2002.
Baffled by Activision’s sudden interest, and their derogatory offer of only $250 Nate has threatened to have his 400,000 member site boycott all id, Activision and SplashDamage products - should they follow through with this threat. Conservative estimates put the actual worth of the domain name at upwards of $3000, ten times that offered by Activision.
Due to my general ignorance regarding Trademark law, I consulted the online encyclopedia Wiki for an answer. Why the sudden U-turn by Activision, how can they do this?
Trademarks rights must be maintained through actual use of the trademark. These rights will diminish over time if a mark is not actively used. In the case of a trademark registration, failure to actively use the mark, or to enforce the registration in the event of infringement, may also expose the registration itself to removal from the register after a certain period of time.
It would seem – if Activision do not pursue this [and other] similar domains, they risk losing their "Enemy Territory" trademark, which could have repercussions with the impending release of Enemy Territory: Quake Wars.
It is however, debatable whether Activision have a legal leg to stand on. “Enemy Territory” is not a registered trademark in Germany, which is where the [enemy-territory.com] domain is registered. Activision would have to pursue this issue through the German courts should Nate refuse to hand over the domain.
Affected domains could include enemyterritory.fr, quakewars.fr and all related domains.
Bron
Physics is like sex: Sure, it may have practical results, but that is not the reason we do it. ~ R. Feynman
All science is either physics or stamp collecting. ~ E. Rutherford
S'il est vrai qu'on construit des cathédrales aujourd'hui dans la Science, il est bien dommage que les gens n'y puissent entrer, ne puissent pas toucher les pierres elles-mêmes.
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26-07-2006, 22:22 #2Member
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wtf zij hebben dat recht niet om da te eisen
, ze moesten dat maar eerder registreren
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26-07-2006, 22:40 #3no votes
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27-07-2006, 18:20 #4Member
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lijkt mij meer dan logisch
Messi no es nada sin Xavi e Iniesta?
Nada más le hizo goles por lote al Mallorca y al Viktoria y solito se fabricó un golazo contra el Madrid en Champions. Es el mejor y punto.no votes
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27-07-2006, 18:30 #5Member
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tis inderdaad op zich al verbazend dat ze hem zo vriendelijk benaderen.
250 dollar is niet overdreven veel, maar als je weet daty hij dat waarschijnlijk voor 15 euro gekocht heeft ofzo is da natuurlijk een mooie winstmarche waarvoor je neits moet doen.
En inderdaad, trademarks hebben recht om hun naam op het internet te krijgen/behouden.
alleen spijtig dat het slechts 250 dollar is
underdogdesign vernieuwt...zichzelf! ONTDEK HET ZELF!
webdesign | mediadesign | reclame | grafisch ontwerp | alle drukwerk | partnership | hardware | hosting | ...no votes
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27-07-2006, 23:07 #6Approved 9liver
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Niets voor moet doen? De community is de oorzaak waarom ET nu nog steeds zo populair is, daar heeft Activision niks mee te zien. Velen mogen het misschien een rotcommunity vinden, toch is het zo. Nu er een opvolger aankomt, willen ze ineens gebruik maken van de populariteit van een game die ze zo goed als in de steek hebben gelaten (buiten het uitbrengen en die ene patch uiteraard...) Die kerel heeft 3 jaar keihard gewerkt om de site zo populair te maken als hij nu is. Dan vind ik persoonlijk 250€ veel te weinig...
Physics is like sex: Sure, it may have practical results, but that is not the reason we do it. ~ R. Feynman
All science is either physics or stamp collecting. ~ E. Rutherford
S'il est vrai qu'on construit des cathédrales aujourd'hui dans la Science, il est bien dommage que les gens n'y puissent entrer, ne puissent pas toucher les pierres elles-mêmes.
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27-07-2006, 23:08 #7Crew Member
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Waarda gij nu nog mee afkomt, dat is al een week opgelost ofzo...
Vanaf nu gaan we verder op BeyondGaming!
In deze thread wordt uitgelegd hoe je jouw account kan migreren.no votes
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27-07-2006, 23:12 #8Approved 9liver
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Sinds vandaag... :< Wist ik veel. Ik heb net die update gelezen op xfire. Sorry dat ik werk

UPDATE:
Since e-t.com publically raised this issue, Activision seem to have backed down. This is their reply.
Hi Albert,
We are very happy for you to keep the domain name and wholeheartedly support communities that have helped develop the ongoing awareness and success of id titles. As such the request you received is based on upon Activision’s concerted marketing effort to promote ids newest title, Enemy Territory Quake Wars. Its certainly not an attempt to the thwart your amazing work to date, take over your site nor pose a legal threat to your community. It would be great if you would provide a link from your domain to http://www.enemyterritory.com, and as a side note we are in the process of localizing that site in both French and German languages to support those territories and active gaming communities with information in their local language.
I did notice your posting on (url) it is a little misleading to what our intentions are, and we are not interested in taking over your site. I think it would have been better to have sent me the email below to clarify our request rather than publicly air a misunderstanding.
Thanks
Jh
Enemy-Territory.com now consider this issue resolved.Physics is like sex: Sure, it may have practical results, but that is not the reason we do it. ~ R. Feynman
All science is either physics or stamp collecting. ~ E. Rutherford
S'il est vrai qu'on construit des cathédrales aujourd'hui dans la Science, il est bien dommage que les gens n'y puissent entrer, ne puissent pas toucher les pierres elles-mêmes.
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