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    Honor System Guide

    Omda er blijkbaar nogal veel vrage zijn over het honor system en omda er nog altij mense zijn die het systeem ni snappe, zal ik dees hier is poste!

    The Basics:
    1. Honor points are accumulated each time you take part in the killing of a player of the opposing faction.

    2. You are penalized if your level is less than 60 (meaning you don't gain as much honor for a kill as a level 60 does).

    3. Your total amount of honor points are added up at the end of each week (during server maintenance).

    4. Your total honor for the week determines your standing on the server for that week. Obviously, with standing #1 being the highest you can achieve and so forth.

    5. Your standing determines what share of rating points you will recieve for that week. The higher the standing, the larger share you get.

    6. Your rating points are points that you earn (different than honor points) each week based on your overall standing on the server for that week.

    7. Your total amount of rating points determine your rank: Rank 14 is 60,000 and above, rank 13 is 55,000-59,999, rank 12 is 50,000-54,999 and so on.

    8. If you finish standing #1 on your server for the week, the largest amount of rating points you can earn is 13,000.

    9. Each week you automatically lose 20% of your total rating points (Honor Decay) to start the week. You have to pvp enough to make up the 20% you lose every week not to lose rating. What gets kind of confusing is the cap for rating loss when you don't PVP at all or not enough to come close to making up what you lost. The cap is 10% but cannot exceed 2500 in this case. So, the most rating points you can lose is 2500 for the week. So, in essence, if you don't PVP at all or finish high enough in standing for the week to earn back the 20% you lost, your total amount of rating points will decrease.

    Example A:


    Player A has a rating of 52,000 in the previous week. Player A does not pvp at all in the current week. Player A will lose 5,200 (10%) rating points essentially, but it is capped at a maximum of 2500 loss for the week. So player A would only drop from a rating of 52,000 to 49,500 (Rank 12 to 11).

    Example B:


    Player A has a rating of 12,000 in the previous week. Player A does not PVP at all in the current week. Player A will lose 1,200 rating points (10%). The 2500 cap will not apply here because the 10% does not exceed 2500. So no rank is lost in this sceanrio but Player A does fall to 10,500 rating points for not PVPing at all in the new week.

    Where it gets hazy is, "How do I know what standing I need to maintain my current rating". I don't quite have a formula to answer that question, but any help on this would be much appreciated.

    The Skinny:

    So, with all this info I have put together a chart to show you how to go from rank 0 to rank 14 and how long it will take you to do it under absolute PERFECT conditions.

    The chart below shows what would happen if you started to pvp from scratch (Rank 0) and you finished #1 on your server every week, and you earned the maximum of 13,000 rating points each of those weeks (remember that is under optimal conditions which I will explain more after the chart). Here it is:


    Week 1: 13,000 Rating Rank 4
    Week 2: 23,400 Rating Rank 6
    Week 3: 31,720 Rating Rank 8
    Week 4: 38,375 Rating Rank 9
    Week 5: 43,700 Rating Rank 10
    Week 6: 47,960 Rating Rank 11
    Week 7: 51,368 Rating Rank 12
    Week 8: 54,094 Rating Rank 12
    Week 9: 56,275 Rating Rank 13
    Week 10: 58,020 Rating Rank 13
    Week 11: 59,416 Rating Rank 13
    Week 12: 60,533 Rating Rank 14 (Grand Marshal/High Warlord Woot!)


    So, it IS possible to go from rank 0 to 14 in 12 weeks.

    Now, like I stated above, this is only possible under OPTIMAL conditions. Those conditions being that you finish #1 on the server every week, you are allotted the maximum rating points each week (13,000), and you are level 60.

    The Grey Areas:

    Here are the things I am either not sure of or have no data on at all.

    1. Blizzard states that your faction's participation in pvp as a whole also has bearing on the total amount of rating points to be given out for the week (the total rating pool). So, I'm not sure how much the faction has to pvp in order for the #1 standing to receive 13,000 rating points. I don't know if it's a certain amount of honor or what. Any clarification on this would be a help.

    2. The only constant I am aware of for rating points earned is the 13,000 per week maximum. I do not have any data to help me calculate what each standing's maximum per week is after standing #1. So I'm not sure if it's percentage based or what. For all I know the maximum rating points that can be given out for a week for standing #2 is 12,000 (just throwing a number out there). I don't have any idea how these are calculated, but from researching many threads and other sites, I assume it is % based. Any help on this would also be appreciated.

    3. Also, from what I have read in the forums, I have come to the conclusion that it IS possible to go from rank 13 to 14 even if you finish as low as standing #3 for the weeks leading up to your rank 14. I have not heard, seen, or read anything lower than this. Please post if you have info regarding this issue as well.

    Common Misconceptions About Honor Points:

    The common misconception about the honor system is the honor point total you accumulate for each week. The amount of honor you accumulate for the week is not the end-all be-all. This is because it is all relative to what other players have done for the week. I'll give you an example:


    In week 1 Player A busts his hump and receives 400,000 honor, but he only finishes 15th on the server in his faction for that week.


    The next week, he doesn't pvp quite as much and still gets 350,000 honor, but he finishes 9th in his faction on the server.


    How is this possible you ask? Simple. Honor points are only a measuring tool to show how well you did compared to other players of your faction on your server. So, in week one of our example, Player A just happened to be amongst others who pvp'ed heavily for that week. In week 2 when he thought he wasn't pvp'ing as much, neither were his peers, and that reflects by his standing for the week.



    Week's Standing Week's Honor Rating Points

    1. 588078 13000
    2. 422282 12307
    3. 401151 12213
    4. 399249 12205
    5. 367498 12071
    6. 354268 12016
    7. ? 11966
    8. 344037 11940
    9. 332190 11831
    10. ? ?
    11. ? 11507
    12. 286929 11412
    13. 285936 11403
    14. 274383 11296
    15. 272342 11277
    16. ? ?
    17. 268417 11242
    18. 255639 11123
    19. 246168 11036
    20. ? 11014
    21. 240793 10987
    22. ? 10952
    23. 230031 10884
    24. 228382 10869
    25. 219998 10789
    26. ? 10767
    27. ? ?
    28. 210099 10696


    The next week:


    Week's Standing Week's Honor Rating Points

    1. 788000 13000
    2. 584524 12201
    3. 579862 12183
    4. 572808 12154
    5. 551372 12070
    6. 544498 12042
    7. ? 11952
    8. 519079 11934
    9. 491981 ?
    10. 470589 11719
    11. ? 11708
    12. ? 11574
    13. 427111 11526
    14. ? 11492
    15. ? 11271
    16. 352534 11193
    17. ? 11160
    18. ? ?
    19. 328922 11088
    20. ? 11042
    21. ? ?
    22. 310445 11006
    23. ? 10987
    24. ? ?
    25. ? ?
    26. 269542 10634
    27. ? ?
    28. 266084 ?
    29. ? ?
    30. 265244 10594
    31. ? 10590
    32. 249939 10452


    So, it is apparent that the #1 standing sets the benchmark, and all those that follow are handed out rating points on a curve based on how close they are to the #1's honor for the week. In this last week's case, the #2 standing did not get a very good rating because he/she was so far behind in honor for the week. Whereas in a previous week the #1 and #2 standing were very close in honor so they got very close to the same amount of rating points awarded to them.
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    Sticky? vonnet wel interessant...
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    wat is het verschil tussen honor points en rating points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead squad
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    wat is het verschil tussen honor points en rating points?
    Rating points zijn de punten die ge krijgt, op basis van uw standing die week. Het maximum aantal rating points dat je die weet kan krijgen, is 13.000.

    Maw:

    Honor points bepalen uw standing
    Rating points (op basis van uw standing) bepalen uw rank.

    Als je gedurende 12 weken, elke week het meeste honor farmed (en dus elke week standing 1 bereikt) krijg je gedurende 12 weken het maximum aan Rating points, en kan je dus op 12 weken van rank 0 naar rank 14 gaan.
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    STICKY plz. Echt supergoed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotmieltje
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    STICKY plz. Echt supergoed!
    zet het maar in de faq ipv sticky
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    Snap het nog altijd niet zo want kijkt, ik en mijn maat PvPte een week.
    Hij was rank 5 42% ik rank 5 21%, ik had 100k honor hij 30k honor en we kwamen op dit uit: Hij: Rank6 25%, ik: 46% met een standing verschil van 250! Eigenlijk stinkt dit systeem gewoon dan .
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristos
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    hij heeft nooit gezegd dat het van hem was
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    hij heeft ook nooit gezegd dat het niet van hem was.

    maar maakt niet uit, het staat dus gewoon in een sticky op het us pvp forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristos
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    hij heeft ook nooit gezegd dat het niet van hem was.

    maar maakt niet uit, het staat dus gewoon in een sticky op het us pvp forum.
    dunno, ik had da gistere op ons guild forum gevonde en daar stond ook geen bron bij
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    maja nu kunne ze nimeerzage over honor system
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    Dus het is mogelijk om als niet hardcore gamer rank 14 te behalen (mits een pak tijd, ik spreek dan over een aantal maanden) ??

    Ik zou graag als men hunter 60 is voor pvp gaan mr weet ni of het wel mogelijk is rank 14 te halen met 4u gaming per dag ofzo

    en kben nu lvl 45, Moet ek al iets ofwa me pvp bezig zijn voor de moment of best wachte tot ek echt 60 ben? ben nu juist sergeant.

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    Zeer leuk, gj

    Aangezien we maar een max. van 3 stickies mogen hebben zal ik het in de general sticky steken

    Gelieve wel je bron te posten bij zulke dingen, al zei het maar uit respect voor degene die er al het rekenwerk heeft in gestoken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DekadeZ
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    Zeer leuk, gj

    Aangezien we maar een max. van 3 stickies mogen hebben zal ik het in de general sticky steken

    Gelieve wel je bron te posten bij zulke dingen, al zei het maar uit respect voor degene die er al het rekenwerk heeft in gestoken.
    als ik het wist had ik het gedaan! maar ik had het gewoon op ons guild forum gevonden en daar stond ook niets bij

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    ik heb het vertaalt naar het nederlands en doorgestuurd via pm (al dan ni me foute)

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