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Oud 6 juni 2009, 23:45   #301  
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Ik vraag me af wat er gebeurd als je met twee voor een NPC staat en je hebt te keuze om hem te laten leven of te vermoorden...
waren de devs zelf nog niet aan uit als je ze hoorde op E3
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... maark zou et wel nice vinden moestek het spel toch soepel kunnen spelen op high graphics. Ze zeggen wel dat het redelijk soepel gaat zijn voor de systemen, maar of dit van toepassing is voor de pc's van nu of @ release.
Dit snap ik dus niet hé... Zolang de graphics goed scalable zijn is er toch geen probleem met op medium te spelen?
Als ik het goed begrijp heb jij liever minder goede graphics, die jij op full kan draaien, dan echt goede graphics, die je dan op medium moet zetten. (Wat er dan evengoed uitziet als mindere goede op full) (als ze goed scalable zijn)
Het is dus gewoon voor het gevoel het maximum uit het spel te halen?

Maar soit, on topic: iemand al een idee wanneer er een beta komt? Of wanneer we meer updates kunnen verwachten? Ik ben echt wat overhyped aant raken.
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Nieuw StarWarsMMO.Net Demo Review(Persoonlijk het beste artikel tot nu toe)

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Jeff and I were the first to see this demo, and the only ones who were able to see the demo twice. Here is what we saw, as this was a watch only demo:

The demo started off with the devs telling us about the flexibility of time in The Old Republic, and how the 300 year gap allowed both Bioware and LucasArts to fill in the gaps of history and begin to fully imagine the Star Wars timeline.

After a brief description of the time frame, we were shown the Sacking of Coruscant video in HD. After the video it was explain to us that they wanted a similar feeling of action, story, and so on all working at once to create a masterpiece to behold. As they put it, “Choice drives story, story drives action.”

After this, we moved onto the in-game demo:

BOUNTY HUNTER

This was the first class we were shown, and it has been confirmed that this class starts on Hutta, a planet stolen by the Hutts and basically claimed as their home planet.

The main quest we were on at the moment was the “Great Hunt”, a hunting competition held by the Mandalorians to find the best hunters in the galaxy.

To start this quest off, we went into the first ever live showing of the dialogue system:

DIALOGUE:
Welcome to Mass Effect multiplayer.

We went up to an NPC and instead of the text box appearing, a mini cinematic appeared of us talking to them Mass Effect/KOTOR style. There was a man in charge, his female assistant, and an alien hunter on the side. The three of them moved, talked, and had full body/facial expressions while speaking. After a few lines were thrown back and forth between them and to us, we had a chance to talk.

What would happen to appear?

A Mass Effect dialogue wheel. We chose an option and lo and behold, our character was fully voiced (by the wonderful Steven Blum, well known for his portrayal of characters like Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop) with his own expressions and so on. This continued for a few more lines before we were sent off to do our duty.

Now, the system is, as they say, indeed fully voiced. There are optional subtitles as well. As was stated by the devs, both male and female characters have the choice between multiple voice actors to portray their character so that everyone does not sound the same.

GRAPHICS
We ran outside of our base to see Hutta in all glory. It was about now that the Stylized realism was explained, and that they were going for a unique, almost concept art feel which was portrayed amazingly well. It was indeed like being in a 3D painting and the colors, shapes, and so on were all easy on the eyes.

COMBAT
Outside, we saw the massive palace of the local Hutt lord and his many cronies littering the area. So, obviously, we attacked them.

I will expand upon this further down, but the combat does not often have you fighting 1 person at a time. Like KOTOR, you often fight multiple enemies at once to portray you as an above the norm type of character, or “Hero” as they put it.

We started off by fighting groups of 3, all of which had blasters. We ran close, then uploaded our blaster pistol. Now, what really sold the guns were the amazing sounds provided by LucasArts, and when he fired he would fire a small volley of shots to the person, often knocking them down or causing them to flinch in pain. As was shown, the Bounty Hunter was capable of firing his gun while moving in any direction.

We then tested out some of his gadgets. The hunter fired a wrist mounted rocket at the thugs, which exploded and knocked the target on his back and did quite a bit of damage. After a few more shots we ran up and unloaded a flamethrower stream on their puny bodies. The stream worked upon a counter bar that quickly extinguished. As the flames hit them, they went up in flames and tried to put themselves out while also trying to attack you.

We then backed up and unloaded on them. Two of them died pretty quickly and the last tried to find cover. He died pretty quickly with a rocket to the face.

We then posed, then the screen went black. Next, Smuggler:

SMUGGLER
This was an E3 reveal, but as they said a very poorly kept secret.

We went right into combat with the Smuggler. He was equipped with a pistol and we killed guy right off the bat. The Dev noted that the Smuggler was capable of firing behind his back while running, shooting around corners, from cover, and so on. Generally, they wanted to base the class off of the combat style of Han Solo. Since the class itself is not heavily armored and limited in range, they chose this style to balance the odds against heavier opponents by basically being underhanded as hell.

How underhanded?

The smugger starts out on Ord Mantel in the demo.

The Smuggler is capable of using cover. How this works is that when you walk up to certain objects like corners, trees, boxes, and so on a little green silhouette will appear. You click on this silhouette and he will take the position, hiding by either crouching or standing depending and firing at his opponent. This system was pretty fluid in the alpha version we watched.

Not much else was particularly said about this class till the end when melee moves were confirmed. The Smuggler ran up to a weakened thug, and then magic happened: he kicked him square in the groin, then shot him in the head to finish him. Yep, you read that correctly.

After this, the Smuggler screen went black as the Smuggler waves.

Now onto Sith:

SITH, FLASH POINTS, AND CO-OP:
This next demo was based upon many things happening at once.

The main char, now a moderately level Sith, is with another player character Bounty Hunter. We walked up to a Captain to ask him a few questions, as we have been told that he refused to follow orders to find a Jedi in his sector.

The two walked up to him, and the conversation mini-scene began. As with the first conversation, we talked to multiple people on the bridge at once and every single one of them was voice acted with movement and expressions. The Sith questioned him on the situation, and then something interesting happened:

DIALOGUE:
SWTOR is the first RPG to allow co-op/multi-player conversations. The Sith was the character to talk to the Captain, but both the Sith and Bounty Hunter were given the options to talk one at a time. The Sith asked a question, the Captain responded, and then the Bounty Hunter commented on the situation.

For most press, they were allowed to choose only one of the outcomes. One outcome is that we let the Captain live, and the other was to let him die. Jeff and I were allowed to see both, so here is what happened:

KILL THE CAPTAIN:
In this sequence, Bounty Hunter or the Sith executes the Captain. If the Sith, he pulls his saber out and cuts him down. If the Bounty Hunter, he hits him to his knees and shoots him in the head, the Captain off camera. This was interesting, as we both assumed the decision was going to be based off of the Sith as he was the one to initiate conversation.

We then proclaimed our dominance. The crew bowed to our will, and a nearby droid confirmed that, by Sith law, we were now captain and owners of this vessel.

We then jumped to hyperspace only to be attacked by a Republic transport. Boarding parties came towards the ship and the two of us told the crew we would take care of it.

The vessel we are on is massive. About the size of the ravager, expect with larger halls and so on. We ran to the halls and boarding pods smashed through the walls and Republic Troops piled out.

The game then became very similar to BattleFront, as there were maybe 10 or more people attacking the two of them at once. The Sith used a Force ability to quickly force jump right into the group and do an AOE lightning attack. We then got to see some lightsabre combat.

The abilities bar gave us multiple attack options. Regular attack just had him casually fighting the troopers with his sabre, but using some abilities had him either attacking much faster with quick slices, or strong and slow attacks. The combat was similar to KOTOR’s, but with a looser, almost Battlefront feel to it.

At the end of every Trooper’s life, the Sith would perform an execution. This usually involved stabbing the trooper through the chest in some elaborate manner. Troopers would pull out a sword when confronted with Melee and would parry and attack, but in the end were no match.

What is interesting to note, however, is that while sword fighting the character would throw his sword to the side or behind him to deflect blaster bolt fire back or away from him. This gave a pretty fluid look to combat similar to that of KOTOR, but not as stiff.

The Bounty Hunter character was also fighting, firing rockets and blaster bolts into the groups. One of the higher level abilities we saw was the Bounty Hunter lifting off with the Jetpack and unleashing hell upon a few groups, rapidly firing blaster bolts before firing some wrist rockets their way.


After a few groups of this, we made our way to the Engine room which was heavily, heavily detailed with a full engine working above us. We jumped down and took out a Padawan and some troops before a full Jedi ran through the shielding and took us on. The Sith deflected blaster bolts as the Jedi attacked and we fought back. After the Bounty Hunter cleaned up the troopers, he moved onto the Jedi. We then did combo moves like picking up Jedi with a Force Grip, then having the Bounty Hunter fire and wrist rocket him. The impact broke the Force Grip, but the combination did a massive amount of damage.

After the Jedi died, the dev took his saber, equipped duel sabers, then the demo was over.

SPARED THE CAPTAIN:
There is some overlap, but also some differences with this one. We let the captain live, who turned out to share your dislike of his superior officer and claimed that finding the Jedi was a waste of valuable resources he was saving for bigger attacks. He turned out to be reasonable, and we jumped to hyperspace before falling out and being attacked by the Transport. This time the Captain informed us of an advanced boarding party in the hanger, and the two of us headed out to clean them up. We made an ally with the Captain and crew, and gained a lightside point. Killing him gave a darkside.

After a few groups of boarding parties like above, we jumped into the docking bay where a Republic landing ship had arrived. We killed a Jedi Padawan at the door which was a fight that ended fairly quickly. We took out a few troops, then the ship got up and began firing upon them. The Bounty Hunter and Sith had to take cover as it fired, unloaded some Troopers and a Jedi Knight, then zoomed off.

The bounty hunter dev focused fire on the troopers as we charged the Jedi. After a fairly lengthy fight, we managed to take him down with a force choke, a few lightsaber exchanges, then a lightsaber stab to the gut, killing him.

As with above, the dev equipped the other saber and the screen went black.

This confirmed looting, dual sabers, and gave a glimpse of combat from various classes.
MUSIC:

I noticed the music in the game was the music from K1, so expect some KOTOR/possibly TSL music to appear in the game.

GLITCHES:
We noticed a few glitches in the Alpha. Some minor lag in some spots, people standing up but not moving after being killed, and so on. Minor stuff, and nothing to be concerned about. We did have the game crash on us when jumping jumping to hyperdrive, but that was quickly reset and fixed for us.
Gaming Experience

The Flash Point scene was a private, closed off area for only you and someone you brought along from the looks of it. no other players, so it is safe to assume this was a single player area. We saw some people on Hutta, but they were just going about their normal business.

As the devs told us, the majority of the game can be done without a single bit of help from another player. They said that the main appeal of MMOs is the experience single player with the option of being with other players. They confirmed that names, chat, and so on could all be turned off or ignored if you really, really wanted absolutely nothing to do with other people.

Names:
Naming filters have been confirmed. No numbers, special characters, or Star Wars names. They emphasized the strictness of this system, as they seemed to agree on the assumption it could be immersion, if not game breaking.

FINAL CONFIRMATIONS:
PVP? Yes.
Jumping? Yes.
Looting? Yes.
Crafting? Yes.
Guilds? Yes.
Auction Houses? Yes.
Trading? Yes.

FINAL IMPRESSION:
Words cannot fully describe what the demo was like, but I think it was damn good and is now fully on my radar. Hope this answered some questions, and feel free to ask a few and I’ll see if I can answer them. Try to keep them relevant to this article however, as I only know what I saw in the demo.
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After the Jedi died, the dev took his saber, equipped duel sabers, then the demo was over.
Dual lightsabers + PvP =
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Ok, ik ben overtuigd, definitief
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Ik volg dit spel al sinds de aankondiging in oktober en ik moet zeggen da ze me blijven verrassen. Het is trouwens zo dat elke class een reeks voice actors heeft waaruit de speler dan kan kiezen. Ik hoop op John DiMaggio.
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Kga alst aankomt pure light side doen (aka proberen geen enkel dark side point te hebben)
vind et zeker de moeite, blijft me verbazen
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idd, eerste char = light side gaan.

Ik kan niet wachten tot de rest van de classes bekend zijn.
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Wat weten we al?

Ik heb een lijstje van het officiėle forum geplaatst hier, zodat we een goed overzicht hebben van de feiten.

BRON 1: LunarDivider
BRON 2: TheDarkKnight

EDIT: Heb de bronnen in de lijst verwijderd, je kan ze terug vinden bij de originele posts. Ik heb de belangrijkste zaken in het vet gezet

General:

  • Seems that the Game has PvE Mode, PvP Mode and RvR
  • Graphics are great and smooth
  • The interface seems standardised. Hot keys on a UI Bar.
  • The UI can be customised
  • The majority of the game can be done without the help of anyone else
  • Naming filter that prevent players from making names with special numbers, letters or names like Luke Skywalker, Darth Solo,
  • Full Voice overs for all NPC, Companions and some extent our characters (There is a mention in one of the reviews about some text, maybe just during the selection, it was not too clear.)
  • Some voice overs being done by cast members of Battlestar Galatica
  • The voiceovers seem to be done by good actors not Fred the Cleaner (If anyone has played Culling of Strath in WoW 3rd boss, you will know what I mean)
  • There is mention of a Player Driven Economy
  • No grinding
  • 8 Classes confirmed
  • They are looking into seperate servers for PvP, RP etc as an option
  • They are trying to make TOR available to People with a mix of PC quality Old and New
  • PvP, Crafting, Raiding etc all in game

Characters:
  • Characters maybe planet locked for a period based on gameplay mechanics (BH needs to get a Hutts help to get off the planet, Smuggler has no ship (Its been stolen)
  • Still no mention of non-human playable races.
  • Bounty Hunters start on Hutta
  • Bounty Hunters Story Arc is called 'The Great Hunt'
  • Bounty Hunters as well as ranged can do hand to hand combat plus dirty tricks
  • Smuggler starts on Ord Mantell - Mentioned in Multiple Reviews
  • Characters can Jump!
  • Multiple voices for characters so they dont sound the same
  • Full body and facial expression while speaking
  • Information on races other than Human coming soon
  • Character customization
  • Other classes will get the Cover ability, but maybe not as effective.
  • Player Characters have some intresting moves.. Smuggler (knee NPC in nuts and shoot them in the head)
  • Dialog selection via a Mass Effect Style Dialog wheel
  • The more Dark/Light Side you go you gain access to more abilities that lean towards that calling that going the other way denies you.
  • XP Points leveling
  • Lightsaber customization
  • Companions react on how you treat them
  • You will be able to interact/upgrade companion characters, but only one can accompany you at a time
  • You can forge relationships with them
  • Instancing
  • Games uses Hero Engine
  • Level Cap

Combat:
  • No Auto Attack
  • Choreographed combat
  • Timing Based combat
  • Combat is fast paced (Almost Console Speed)
  • Special moves seem to require points similar to Rogue in WoW. (If you are not sure what I mean read further in this post, its explained)
  • Players seem to be able to take on 1 to 4 NPCs at the same time.
  • Combat seems to be more fluid and dynamic (not too sure what they were refering to by maybe queuing moves?)
  • Duel use of Lightsabers shown.
  • There is mention of the Sith soaking up damage and causing agro. Possible hint to a Tanking class?
  • Combat looks like in Battlefront 10v2
  • When engaging, NPC changed from ranged to melee as the player came closer
  • Combat is more fluent and less stiff as in KoTOR
  • The Sith auto-deflected blasts with his lightsaber

Flashpoints/Loot:
  • Loot seems to be based on Light/Darkside as well as class.
  • Looting is the standard Loot types in other MMOs
  • Choices in Flashpoints can change the course of the instance. Kill a NPC and 'A' happens.. do not kill and 'B' happens.
  • Flashpoints can be done solo or grouped.
  • Group decisions in Flashpoints (Its mentioned that BW are still working on how to apply LS/DS points depending on outcome).
  • PvP loot mentioned as loot in the gamespot Smuggler interview.
  • Loot sets also seem to be in game, possible mutliple PvP sets mentioned
  • The Group decisions seem to work like the LOTRO Combo Combat function, you get little time to decide what you want to do. A selection of outcomes appear and you have to decide fast.

Planet & Travel
  • Some sort of transportation between worlds
  • Coruscant
  • Tython
  • Korriban
  • Hutta
  • ...

Races

  • Humans(confirmed)
  • Twi'lek (very possible)
  • Chagrian (can be seen in the gameplay demo)
  • Togruta (very possible)
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Mooi lijstje

Nice find Nalar!
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Geen...auto-attack? :O
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is er al iets geweten over mounts? speeder bikes enzo.
en space combat mag echt niet ontbreken in een star wars mmo. dat kan eventueel nog komen bij een expansion zoals bij swg in den tijd.
zal je naar een andere planeet kunnen reizen via een transport systeem?
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In Space Combat ben ik nu dus écht niet geļnteresseerd eh :/
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Dit snap ik dus niet hé... Zolang de graphics goed scalable zijn is er toch geen probleem met op medium te spelen?
Als ik het goed begrijp heb jij liever minder goede graphics, die jij op full kan draaien, dan echt goede graphics, die je dan op medium moet zetten. (Wat er dan evengoed uitziet als mindere goede op full) (als ze goed scalable zijn)
Het is dus gewoon voor het gevoel het maximum uit het spel te halen?
Toch logisch dat hij voor de goede graphics op medium gaat.

Een MMO speel je voor JAREN (normaal gezien)
Door de jaren heen gaat de PC erop vooruit, graphics incl.
Als ze ineens hoog genoeg mikken bij de launch dan is de game na 2 jaar nog niet afgeschreven voor zijn graphics.
Dat is hetzelfde als EQ2 gedaan heeft, bij de launch kon niemand het op Full draaien, nu gaat dat wel (we zijn 4 jaar verder)
Wat dus ook betekend dat als je een nieuwe PC hebt, je plots knappere graphics krijgt in je favoriete MMO. Als dat geen leuk extratje is?
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In Space Combat ben ik nu dus écht niet geļnteresseerd eh :/
Alé waarom ni? zal zen charmes wel hebben

kijk ondertussen heel hard uit naar deze mmo, kga daar echt " the good guy " uithangen craften/alle mogelijke content/verschillende planeten,..

blijven eindeloze mogelijkheden, en ze zijn heel goe bezig tot nu toe
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Alé waarom ni? zal zen charmes wel hebben

kijk ondertussen heel hard uit naar deze mmo, kga daar echt " the good guy " uithangen craften/alle mogelijke content/verschillende planeten,..

blijven eindeloze mogelijkheden, en ze zijn heel goe bezig tot nu toe
Gewoon. Als ze hun daar ook op moeten focussen, dan gaat het land-gedeelte (wat imo het belangrijkste is) in het gedrang komen.
Je kan niet verwachten dat ze EN een volledige space EN een volledige land mmo hebben. En dunno, ik heb dan liever dat ze een zeer goede land-mmo hebben dan een beperkte space en een matige land..

Nu bon, ik denk dat we wel een vorm van space combat zullen zien (ze hinten er in elk geval wel naar), maar ik betwijfel ten zeerste dat dat open space combat/pvp zal zijn. Denk eerder aan een battleground in de ruimte ofzo, iets in de genre van WAR scenario's..
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